lundi 15 février 2021

The "Fireball" scam

(I'm not sure where this exactly belongs, it's not really Trials although it could be the community, but I'll put it here)

A podcast that I listen to a lot is called Crime Junkies, and it is basically stories of true crime. Generally, missing persons but sometimes there are other things. I listen to it at night as I go to sleep.

An interesting story they had a few months ago was about a woman who had just moved to Denver. She met some guy on-line, and they arranged to meet at the bar at an Old Chicago (that's a very Denver thing). She got there, and he texted to let her know he was running late, and she should order a couple of Fireball shots and he'd be there soon. She did that, but he kept stalling with more excuses why he was late. Finally, she tried to call him to see what was going on, and got an error message that the number was out of service. Huh? Clearly she was getting stood up.

Meanwhile, another guy sitting at the bar was making small talk. In finding out that she had been stood up, he offered to join her for dinner instead to keep her company. She hesitated, but at some point went to the bathroom.

When she was in the bathroom, a waitress came in and gave her a warning. She said that, for whatever you think, the guy you are talking to is responsible for you being here. They've (she and bartender) seen it before with this guy that he comes in and sits at the bar, and meets up with some woman who always has the same story. They were supposed to meet someone here, got stood up, and the person told them to order 2 Fireball shots while they were waiting. Very often, the woman ends up leaving with the guy.

Having been warned, she was able to keep her mind about her to avoid this guy, and ultimately he left without her, despite trying hard to pressure her into leaving with him.

The moral of the story was that it was a pretty creepy situation, and who knows what she avoided. Most likely, it wasn't going to turn out well.

But today they had an update on the story. After that podcast came out, they got contacted by a lot of women who claimed to have a very similar experience. Again, they met some guy on-line, arranged to meet, he let them know he was going to be late and to buy a couple of shots while she was waiting, and then never showed up. Meanwhile, some other guy slid in and tried to take advantage of the situation. They also talked to the bartender and waitress from Denver and they confirmed the original story. These other cases were not in Denver, but were from all over the country.

Their question was, what's going on? Is this an organization that using this scam for human trafficking? Or is just the same people who happen to be moving around the country? Why is it happening all over?

One option that they didn't bring up that I thought about is that maybe this is something that is talked about in the Incel area of the internet? I wouldn't know where to start looking that crap, even if I wanted, but I just wonder if there isn't a detailed plan out there that all these guys are sharing with each other and following?

There are areas of the internet that I certainly don't know about and don't think about.


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