The Progressive Grab bag of Deception.
In our current time and society it has become fashionable to heap as much disparagement upon the idea of God as possible. The arguments follow the predictable paths;
1) Old superstition of backward cultures. Yet the gifts of the spirit still manifest today and for some reason there seems to be no likewise ridicule of the kingdom of Satan. Maybe it has something to do with whom the progressives fear most. Hence I refer to them as regressive.
2) Science and the theory of evolution. Big subject all on its own. Yet the whole reason for sexual reproduction is to provide a self correcting mechanism to prevent species drift so the concept of progressing mutations leading to evolution falls away. But don’t proclaim that in public or the learned masses go into a frenzy in defence of their sacred cow.
3) The religious are intolerant haters and refuse to embrace gays and witches and Satanists etc. This is just a trap hatched in the depths of hell itself. The whole idea is to present the Christians with subject matter that they cannot embrace without defiling the tenants of their own faith, and then make demands that they accept these perversions, with the result they have to become either apostates or be condemned as haters. Yet the Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists also reject these behaviours but not a single word in condemnation is raised against them. That’s because this trap was only intended for the Christian God, not the others. Obviously the progressive globalists believe that Lucifer, Enlil, Azazel and Astaroth are all OK by them . Good luck with that.
Then comes this little gem.
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I am going to examine each one of those
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verses in context and see if they are correctly applied to prove that God hates children and wants to kill them. Or is there some other reason.
He starts off with;
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God killing kids and God ordering the killing of kids.
You have to admit he is rather fond of it.
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Followed by the list of verses
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Exodus 4:23 I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.
Exodus 12:29 And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt
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So what happened here? The Pharaoh of Egypt wanted to depopulate the Israelites because they were becoming too many. It is all laid out in Chapter one of Exodus. In the end he made it law that all the Israelite woman had to kill their own children if they were male by throwing them into the Nile river when they were born. Of course
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s see no problem ordering mothers to kill their own sons. They support it indirectly to this day under the banner of the right to choose.
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Exo 1:22 And Pharaoh charged all his people, saying, Every son that is born ye shall cast into the river, and every daughter ye shall save alive.
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Now the Israelites are Gods chosen nation by a covenant that he made with Abraham. He now started to take action to get his nation out of Egypt for their own protection. God brought plague after plague on the Egyptians to make them let the Israelite slaves go but in the end it took the killing of the Egyptian first born to force the issue and make it happen. Payback sure is a bitch !
The next verse;
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Numbers 31;17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones
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The complete verse is this;
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Num 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
Num 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
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Now that appears a bit harsh but what prompted this. What was the reason ?
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Num 31:16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.
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The name Peor is the old name for the demon we now call Belphagor. One of the ten top generals of hell. He is associated with distribution of mammon and sex perversion. Probably well known and invoked in the higher progressive political circles. Obviously he attempted to corrupt and bring into bondage the Israelite congregation and it resulted in a war to drive it out. Obviously bringing a whole lot of captives back that are still under the sway of this demon defeats the purpose of the war in the first place. It will just result in reinfection. The fact that the young virgins were left as they were not the danger does indicate that there is not a slaughter of the innocents as well.
The next one;
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Nerd 33:4 For the Egyptians buried all their firstborn, which the LORD had smitten among them
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This is what the whole verse is supposed to be, where he gets the book name Nerd escapes me.
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Num 33:4 For the Egyptians buried all their firstborn, which the LORD had smitten among them: upon their gods also the LORD executed judgments.
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Why the Egyptians lost their first born when the Israelites left has already been covered but I left the full verse in because it also shows that the Egyptian gods also got the same smite as the humans. This is one of the proof verses for ET’s being on earth in the past and the Christians are expecting to see them again as the son of perdition rises to power. Just an FYI.
Now the next two verses;
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Deuteronomy 2;33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.
34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:
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They should be together like this;
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Deu 2:32 Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, to fight at Jahaz.
Deu 2:33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.
Deu 2:34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:
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What should be noted here is that the Israelites only wanted to pass through as shown in these verses;
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Deu 2:26 And I sent messengers out of the wilderness of Kedemoth unto Sihon king of Heshbon with words of peace, saying,
Deu 2:27 Let me pass through thy land: I will go along by the high way, I will neither turn unto the right hand nor to the left.
Deu 2:28 Thou shalt sell me meat for money, that I may eat; and give me water for money, that I may drink: only I will pass through on my feet;
Deu 2:29 (As the children of Esau which dwell in Seir, and the Moabites which dwell in Ar, did unto me;) until I shall pass over Jordan into the land which the LORD our God giveth us.
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The Israelites did not attack the king. It was the king that attacked the Israelites, just because he lost the encounter he started, it does not mean God was a child killer. The Israelites only did to the king what he wanted to do to them. But I suppose if the desired narrative is “God hates children” then any old verse out of context will do !
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Deuteronomy 3:3 So the LORD our God delivered into our hands Og also, the king of Bashan, and all his people: and we smote him until none was left to him remaining.
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The same story, It was not the Israelites that started the fight but they were sure to finish it.
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Deu 3:1 Then we turned, and went up the way to Bashan: and Og the king of Bashan came out against us, he and all his people, to battle at Edrei.
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I suppose if there were any well educated progressives back then they would be out there calling the Israelites haters because they didn’t just lie down and die for every other tribe out there.
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Deuteronomy 20:16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:
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Now at first glace that may seem rather vicious but what were those tribes doing ? They were heavy into Baal worship and sacrificing their kids to Moloch etc. They had gone completely off the rails and under full control of the demonic. Kind of like what the progressives would like to do now protecting all perversions they can so long as it pisses of the Christians. This is what God had to say about the situation;
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Deu 20:18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.
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He wanted to keep their demonic pollutants well away from his own nation. Now just as a side note, back in the day before the time of Exodus, God gave Abraham a prophetic word concerning his decedents. He was currently in the land that God had given him but it was already occupied. However his decedents would be going into captivity for 400 years and God said he would lead them out and back to the place he currently was with the intention to taking it over. He was not going to do it now because the local inhabitants had not yet filled up their cup of iniquity. In other words Gods judgement has a habit of falling on the generation that is ready for it.
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Gen 15:16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
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So now you know why God was so against the tribes that occupied that area.
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Joshua 6:21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword
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The same situation as before applied, The whole city was demonically infested and anything living was a habitation for the demonic. The instruction was that only objects that could be passed through fire could be taken as in metals. The only person that could be saved from the city was the woman and family that helped the Israelites that cased the joint out. That woman later became an ancestor to King David.
I’m not going to keep going through all the rest as the message is clear. God is not a lovey dovey God. But he is practical in his applications. Look at the time of Noah, all flesh became corrupted.
You cannot corrupt all flesh unless something gets out the lab and messes with the DNA or basic building blocks of life. That resulted in an extinction level flood. Clean the slate and start new. Look at the cities of Sodom etc. Went all reprobate so get rid of the cancer before it spreads to other areas.
Its not that God hates children, its that he looks at the over all picture and does what has to be done to protect first his own nation and then the rest of his creation. Being a smart aleck and deliberately promoting that which will have a negative effect on his creation is going to get the same results that have been seen in ancient times as well. He even holds back until the time comes when he has to act. But when he does it is complete in its execution.
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