First off, I've got most of our resident reactionaries on ignore. The reason for this I will outline below.
Postmodern conservatives - which is the most prolific current of conservatism - are an unusual bunch in that they aren't really followers of an ideology, but rather a set of affects. It's about reacting to something or creating a situation in a way as to effect a negative emotion on a perceived other. They will assume political positions, but only in service of the previously mentioned. This is the reason that they will almost inevitably appear to hold a position one day that is diametrically opposed to one they held the day before. The objective is the "debate" and the negative emotions this create in the opponents. With few exceptions, this is the type of "conservative" we encounter here, or in most online spaces.
"Not all conservatives" and so on, but this is the most visible and audible group.
The nature of this philosophy is to gravitate towards ever more extreme positions, and as it isn't about outright lying about your position but rather about sincerely believing every argument until it's no longer advantageous, the philosophy also tends to lead to expressions of violence when there's no where more extreme to go.
As there is no tangible position to argue against that isn't simply "whatever makes the --insert group I hate here-- mad", there is no point in discussing anything with adherents of this philosophy. In fact, doing so only validates the postmodern conservatives. Their vapid opinions being treated seriously is taken as validation that they are correct. Their vapid opinions being mocked is taken as validation that they are correct because their 'enemy' thinks differently.
My advice for a better forum experience: Do not engage. Ignore the poster and instead, discuss the pathology behind the behaviour with other forumites. This isn't about silencing opinions. It's about discarding dishonest opinions held out of pure spite. We are dealing with something that cannot be argued away. De-radicalization is needed, and that's a long process that we aren't equipped to handle here. In fact, we are likely to make things much worse.
For those few conservative posters here and elsewhere on the internet who feel annoyed and unfairy targeted by this post: if you have sincerely held beliefs that are subject to change as facts are presented, and don't simply consist of "gotta own the libs", you aren't the ones being discussed here.
Postmodern conservatives - which is the most prolific current of conservatism - are an unusual bunch in that they aren't really followers of an ideology, but rather a set of affects. It's about reacting to something or creating a situation in a way as to effect a negative emotion on a perceived other. They will assume political positions, but only in service of the previously mentioned. This is the reason that they will almost inevitably appear to hold a position one day that is diametrically opposed to one they held the day before. The objective is the "debate" and the negative emotions this create in the opponents. With few exceptions, this is the type of "conservative" we encounter here, or in most online spaces.
"Not all conservatives" and so on, but this is the most visible and audible group.
The nature of this philosophy is to gravitate towards ever more extreme positions, and as it isn't about outright lying about your position but rather about sincerely believing every argument until it's no longer advantageous, the philosophy also tends to lead to expressions of violence when there's no where more extreme to go.
As there is no tangible position to argue against that isn't simply "whatever makes the --insert group I hate here-- mad", there is no point in discussing anything with adherents of this philosophy. In fact, doing so only validates the postmodern conservatives. Their vapid opinions being treated seriously is taken as validation that they are correct. Their vapid opinions being mocked is taken as validation that they are correct because their 'enemy' thinks differently.
My advice for a better forum experience: Do not engage. Ignore the poster and instead, discuss the pathology behind the behaviour with other forumites. This isn't about silencing opinions. It's about discarding dishonest opinions held out of pure spite. We are dealing with something that cannot be argued away. De-radicalization is needed, and that's a long process that we aren't equipped to handle here. In fact, we are likely to make things much worse.
For those few conservative posters here and elsewhere on the internet who feel annoyed and unfairy targeted by this post: if you have sincerely held beliefs that are subject to change as facts are presented, and don't simply consist of "gotta own the libs", you aren't the ones being discussed here.
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