The great 2019 international Hamburger debate

This probably needs it's own thread

It started from a post I made on the other thread

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Originally Posted by cullennz (Post 12769405) Lol Off topic, but question to Americans. How come you sometimes call burgers sandwiches and sometimes burgers? What makes a burger with chicken from for instance KFC (on their website) a sandwich in the US? They are called burgers in NZ and most other places (and on our kfc site). Yet you seem to call beef patties in a burger bun burgers Basically anything in a burger bun is a burger every else I know and a sandwich is sliced bread And a filled roll is like a baguet (french stick) Is it burger if beef, sandwich if not beef?

And continued

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Originally Posted by Checkmite (Post 12769884) In the US, anything between bread can be called a sandwich. Burgers are a type of sandwich, and can be called either-or. But in the US, a "burger" will always be one or more beef patties (i.e., hamburger meat), or a non-meat substitute designed to mimic beef patties, on a bun; chicken or other meats are never called burgers here despite that usage in Commonwealth countries. All non-beef sandwiches are just sandwiches. Things on long rolls are a little more complicated - in some specific localities they might be called hoagies, grinders, "po' boys", or hero sandwiches (with special rules for what concoction qualifies for which name), but throughout most of the US they're typically referred to as submarine sandwiches, or "subs". A cheesesteak is a specific recipe of sub featuring the titular ingredients. The only exception to the "anything between bread is a sandwich" rule I can think of is hot dogs/wursts.

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Originally Posted by plague311 (Post 12769914) It's like the "soda" or "pop" argument. For the life of me I can't understand how chicken between a bun is called a "burger", since in our neck of the woods a "burger" refers to the hamburger between the bun. Chicken isn't hamburger, it's chicken. A sandwich covers pretty much anything outside of a burger on a bunch. Even on our menus there is a "Burger" section, and a "sandwiches" section. Sandwiches include clubs and everything in between up to and including Philly Cheesesteaks.

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Originally Posted by mgidm86 (Post 12770227) I've never heard of anything other than bread with hamburger in it called a burger. Never really heard a burger called a sandwich either. A burger is the meat, bun or not. If you're Curly from The Three Stooges you'd call it a boygah ;) I find this discussion more interesting than the OP.

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Originally Posted by cullennz (Post 12770257) But a hamburger isn't the meat patty The origin of the word hamburger is the whole thing. Meat and bun. Which was then just shortened to burger Hence here a hamburger is a beef patty burger Chicken is chicken burger etc

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Originally Posted by isissxn (Post 12770259) Then there's veggie burgers, making the whole thing even more complicated!

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Originally Posted by carrps (Post 12770271) But the meat patty without the bun is called a burger. :confused:

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Originally Posted by cullennz (Post 12770327) Maybe its a geographical thing We call them "hamburger patties" You have a hamburger bun and a hamburger patty

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