For 9/11, that is - both indirectly and (in some ways) directly - along with Pakistan (the ISI, mainly), the Taliban in Afghanistan (for providing safe harbor to bin Laden and his confederates), and many Sunni/Wahhabist
imams operating with the blessing of Saudi and other Gulf monarchy sponsored "charities" around the world (or at the very least, willful neglect and turning a blind eye to what some of these clerics and donors were really up to).
Hell, even Iran was willing to provide sanctuary to some al-Qaeda associates and operatives under that time-old logic "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" (Iran's enemies, in this case, being the US, Israel, and the Sunni Gulf monarchies that al-Qaeda and other Sunni jihadists have been very explicit about wanting to violently overthrow - which further complicates the position of the House of Saud and the other Islamic regimes in the Middle East, particularly in the Persian Gulf).
In some tragic and twisted irony, one of the few Middle Eastern regimes that did NOT tolerate al-Qaeda (domestically) was Saddam Hussein's Iraq - not out of the goodness of Saddam's indisputably sadistic heart, mind you, but because Saddam (correctly) judged bin Laden and his followers to be threats to his own absolute draconian power and brutally authoritarian regime in Iraq, and Saddam usually only sponsored terrorists when he could control them.
When Truthers do admit any of these facts, it's almost inevitably as a logically tortured way station en route to their argument that violent jihadists, clerics, and their patrons in the Islamic world are merely acting on behalf of the real puppet-masters who are responsible for 9/11 and everything else that is bad, unjust, and evil in the world (the US and Israel, mostly - hmm...:rolleyes: ). Apparently, Muslims have no agency of their own, no ability to act independently of what the US, the West in general (and Israel...lmao) instruct them to do. Nothing racist or condescending about that at all!
There's plenty to talk about regarding the disturbing economic, geopolitical, and even personal ties between American and other Western elites on the one hand, and some of the dubious (at best) and corrupt elites in Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, etc. on the other...but that doesn't lend itself to blaming the Jooz and talking about controlled demolitions, thermite, and cruise missiles at the Pentagon, now does it? :rolleyes:
imams operating with the blessing of Saudi and other Gulf monarchy sponsored "charities" around the world (or at the very least, willful neglect and turning a blind eye to what some of these clerics and donors were really up to).
Hell, even Iran was willing to provide sanctuary to some al-Qaeda associates and operatives under that time-old logic "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" (Iran's enemies, in this case, being the US, Israel, and the Sunni Gulf monarchies that al-Qaeda and other Sunni jihadists have been very explicit about wanting to violently overthrow - which further complicates the position of the House of Saud and the other Islamic regimes in the Middle East, particularly in the Persian Gulf).
In some tragic and twisted irony, one of the few Middle Eastern regimes that did NOT tolerate al-Qaeda (domestically) was Saddam Hussein's Iraq - not out of the goodness of Saddam's indisputably sadistic heart, mind you, but because Saddam (correctly) judged bin Laden and his followers to be threats to his own absolute draconian power and brutally authoritarian regime in Iraq, and Saddam usually only sponsored terrorists when he could control them.
When Truthers do admit any of these facts, it's almost inevitably as a logically tortured way station en route to their argument that violent jihadists, clerics, and their patrons in the Islamic world are merely acting on behalf of the real puppet-masters who are responsible for 9/11 and everything else that is bad, unjust, and evil in the world (the US and Israel, mostly - hmm...:rolleyes: ). Apparently, Muslims have no agency of their own, no ability to act independently of what the US, the West in general (and Israel...lmao) instruct them to do. Nothing racist or condescending about that at all!
There's plenty to talk about regarding the disturbing economic, geopolitical, and even personal ties between American and other Western elites on the one hand, and some of the dubious (at best) and corrupt elites in Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, etc. on the other...but that doesn't lend itself to blaming the Jooz and talking about controlled demolitions, thermite, and cruise missiles at the Pentagon, now does it? :rolleyes:
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