vendredi 25 juin 2021

A thought experiment without money

We are doing the following thought experiment in the steps described below (with some instructions as well).


1.Imagine that you do something,
instructions 1: feel free to imagine, following the steps and instructions below from beggining until the end.


2.You do this something that you imagine in two different ways from its beginning until its end
instructions 2: you can come back to me with two stories, each with a beginning and and end, about something done in two different ways from its beginning until its end.


3.First you do it with money from its beginning until its end
instructions 3:
Trade is happening in the first story with money.

Clarifications...
This means that, either you do something for another, and another gives the agreed amount of money to you,
or another does something for you, and you give another the agreed amount of money to another...and the agreed amount of money...
is the amount of money you and another...agreed in order to trade.



4.Secondly you do it without money from its beginning until its end
instructions 4:
Trade is happening in the second story without money.

This mean that, you do this for another and another does that for you, and money isn't involved between the two of you, in the second story.



5. For the second way when you do it without money, you have to spend less time and effort to do it, from its beginning until its end
how to imagine:
In the first story when you do it with money, you have to spend more time and effort to do it, from its beginning until its end


6. I wonder would you say you are using your money wisely?

7. Because if you would, wait a minute before you start replying, and listen to me.

In both stories that you can come back to me, you are trading with another.

In one of the stories, you have to spend more time and effort, to do what you freely imagined you do with another, plus you have to also use money on top of having to spend more time and effort to do it, unlike the way you do it in the other story.

In the other story, you have to spend less time and effort, to do what you freely imagined you do with another, and as you also have to not use money in the second story, you don't have to spend time and effort to use money, unlike the way you do it in one of the stories.


8. So it seems to me that the other story, and not one of the stories, is what you would be looking for...if it seems sensible to you to spend less time and effort, and not get caught up in one of those stories...you know the ones I'm talking about, no?.. if not I am talking about one of the stories where you have to spend endless time and effort even for the simplest of things.

And this is why it seems to me that money reduces time and effort spend to trade, but let's add more clarifications from the beginning, so that we don't misunderstand each other...


what do you think will happen if you give money to your girlfriend...and the way you do it, whatever way that is...happens to increase the tme and effort she has to spend to feel good? (because I think you already know the answer here...)



e.g. imagine after you have sex with your girlfriend, you really had a good time, she really put in the time and effort for both to have a good time, and you really want to thank her...and you decide to give her money for that... (...and I hope you haven't tried that...)

and there is a range from don't give money to your girl after sex, to don't expect sex from a prostitute without money...

but this doesn't stop in sex...

you sometimes choose with people that are close to opt out of money if it messes up the relationship between the two of you, for the specific occasion...

...and you usually choose with strangers to use money, as you don't know them and can't trust exchanges without money.

and whether you choose one or the other depends on how much time and effort you have to spend either by using money or not, to do what you want to do.

And finally, the reason why this is important and why I am not simply making fun of you, just in case I am giving such an impression, is that...



When one wants to play tricks with you with money, what you agreed with that one, isn't getting done, or it takes significantly more time and effort to get done, and that one usually comes back with a complicated spaghettis story, that doesn't seem to end...and then that one keeps wasting your time and effort.



It seems simple and practical for one's life to remember that , it seems to me...but perhaps I'm wrong...this is why I wrote it here, to see people's questions/view/objections


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