I was in an entertaining debate online with a 9/11 Truther/no planer, and he argued:
"The LIVE broadcast wasn't LIVE it was delayed 17 minutes or more to do the digital CGI on the "planes"...YOu saw a movie...with CGI doctoring the "planes". NO PLANES USED. A few planted shills with fake "home videos" were "aired" lying about the planes. Few actually said they saw "planes" or heard planes..listen to what the real eye witnesses really said and saw. "It wasn't a military plane" "It was a big and grey and had no windows". A plane would have collapsed before hitting the buildings at this speed and descent...and papers have been written about the DUST containing thermite"
:jaw-dropp
I was fascinated as not once did he offer a shred of evidence to support any of these assertions, rather he told me to watch some YouTube Truther videos. The principles of the scientific method had been abandoned.
The Truther drew his conclusions, then he selectively sought 'evidence' to support his conclusion.
okay, the one question I always ask No Planers is the fate of the passengers and crew- if they doubt the planes were real, then they must think the passengers and crew were fictional- and by extension the mourning families putting on a show.
With this clown, like all the others, he wouldn't even address the issue of people on the planes, or the eye witnesses that saw planes hit the WTC and pentagon. I asked about the passengers and crew, and he immediately switched topics, and did the old 'well, what about...' act
I asked if he had any evidence that Manhattan was empty of people that morning, as he claimed there were no witnesses to the planes, but when I pressed the issue of witnesses, again he changed topics. same with plane wreckage- he argued it was planted- I pushed for evidence, he didn't want to talk about it
This makes me wonder- are there other examples of reality that would deflate Truther theories that they refuse to discuss even if asked directly, or just quickly change the subject?
I think they avoid issues that they know would immediately discredit their theories. Have you had a similar experience when debating Truthers?
"The LIVE broadcast wasn't LIVE it was delayed 17 minutes or more to do the digital CGI on the "planes"...YOu saw a movie...with CGI doctoring the "planes". NO PLANES USED. A few planted shills with fake "home videos" were "aired" lying about the planes. Few actually said they saw "planes" or heard planes..listen to what the real eye witnesses really said and saw. "It wasn't a military plane" "It was a big and grey and had no windows". A plane would have collapsed before hitting the buildings at this speed and descent...and papers have been written about the DUST containing thermite"
:jaw-dropp
I was fascinated as not once did he offer a shred of evidence to support any of these assertions, rather he told me to watch some YouTube Truther videos. The principles of the scientific method had been abandoned.
The Truther drew his conclusions, then he selectively sought 'evidence' to support his conclusion.
okay, the one question I always ask No Planers is the fate of the passengers and crew- if they doubt the planes were real, then they must think the passengers and crew were fictional- and by extension the mourning families putting on a show.
With this clown, like all the others, he wouldn't even address the issue of people on the planes, or the eye witnesses that saw planes hit the WTC and pentagon. I asked about the passengers and crew, and he immediately switched topics, and did the old 'well, what about...' act
I asked if he had any evidence that Manhattan was empty of people that morning, as he claimed there were no witnesses to the planes, but when I pressed the issue of witnesses, again he changed topics. same with plane wreckage- he argued it was planted- I pushed for evidence, he didn't want to talk about it
This makes me wonder- are there other examples of reality that would deflate Truther theories that they refuse to discuss even if asked directly, or just quickly change the subject?
I think they avoid issues that they know would immediately discredit their theories. Have you had a similar experience when debating Truthers?
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