(From thead: NASA Mars announcement expected Monday. )
I respect and appreciate them and their input where they are correct about the issue above. However, correcting that issue alone, or that combined with their trust in NASA does not IMO dispel all doubt. So its not so simple.
Other knowledgeable people are on the record supporting claims that NASA withholds info, and that NASA is not the real space program. I have yet to see convincing refutation of interpretations of statements supporting claims of secret space craft, for example..
IMO the evidence/circumstantial evidence about secret advanced craft, for example, is sufficiently compelling to support certain claims and to instill doubt. Nor am I convinced by dueling interpretations of those controversial statements made by American/Russian astronauts.
I can almost imagine how someone like Hoagland, if they truly are convinced NASA is dishonest, might think there is somehow justification/reason to knowingly publish nonsense, as a strategy. One reason I say this is that Hoagland is far, far, far from alone in claiming NASA is not the only space program.
Here's an example, one of the speakers instilling doubt regarding NASA being the only space program:
Mark McCandlish at the Secret Space Program Conference, 2014 San Mateo
If interested, search youtube for that title. First ten minutes can be skipped.
He is one of several. Therefore, getting what I mean about compelling claims instilling doubt might call for viewing more talks from that event.
For example Robt Morningstar presented astronauts comments made while on the moon, combined with images showing large unknown craft near the moon. IMO it boils down to he is either a fraud, or mistaken/deluded, or he is correct.
Then there are the various secret space program quotes by Ben Rich. He was a director at Lockheed Martin's skunkworks. That implies he knows what he is talking about.
Nonetheless, I doubt this will ever be settled, in light of opposing views, claims, perceptions etc.
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Originally Posted by SezMe (Post 10900910)
Bubba, you present a curious dichotomy to me. One the one hand, you genuinely seem interested in scientific topics and you seem to accept what knowledgeable people here post. On the other hand, you waste time and, more importantly, your brain on sites such as Enterprise Mission. If you are really seeking to learn about new scientific developments, get the hell off that site. It's more than just a waste, it really does interfere with learning what's going on in high-tech fields.
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I respect and appreciate them and their input where they are correct about the issue above. However, correcting that issue alone, or that combined with their trust in NASA does not IMO dispel all doubt. So its not so simple.
Other knowledgeable people are on the record supporting claims that NASA withholds info, and that NASA is not the real space program. I have yet to see convincing refutation of interpretations of statements supporting claims of secret space craft, for example..
IMO the evidence/circumstantial evidence about secret advanced craft, for example, is sufficiently compelling to support certain claims and to instill doubt. Nor am I convinced by dueling interpretations of those controversial statements made by American/Russian astronauts.
I can almost imagine how someone like Hoagland, if they truly are convinced NASA is dishonest, might think there is somehow justification/reason to knowingly publish nonsense, as a strategy. One reason I say this is that Hoagland is far, far, far from alone in claiming NASA is not the only space program.
Here's an example, one of the speakers instilling doubt regarding NASA being the only space program:
Mark McCandlish at the Secret Space Program Conference, 2014 San Mateo
If interested, search youtube for that title. First ten minutes can be skipped.
He is one of several. Therefore, getting what I mean about compelling claims instilling doubt might call for viewing more talks from that event.
For example Robt Morningstar presented astronauts comments made while on the moon, combined with images showing large unknown craft near the moon. IMO it boils down to he is either a fraud, or mistaken/deluded, or he is correct.
Then there are the various secret space program quotes by Ben Rich. He was a director at Lockheed Martin's skunkworks. That implies he knows what he is talking about.
Nonetheless, I doubt this will ever be settled, in light of opposing views, claims, perceptions etc.
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