mercredi 29 mars 2017

International terrorism

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Originally Posted by baron (Post 11773450)
The list as a whole was cherry picked because you decided to focus solely on the US, because your argument clearly fails when talking about issues further afield.

I picked the US because it was in discussion, and as I noted in my follow up Europe postings, actually no it doesn't, the vast majority of those attacks were because they were attacks against countries involved in military action against Muslims in the Middle East as well, were as "Because you are infidel" doesn't crop up once.

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the Ohio State University attacks 2016 (ISIS propoganda driven)
ISIL claimed the following... the attacker responded to an ISIL call to attack coalition citizens

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San Bernadino 2015 (no indication of political motive but a lot of talk of martyrdom, a blatantly non-political concept)
Actually mentioned in my post, the motivation is currently unknown, though it's suspected that the trigger was being forced to attend a Christmas party function.

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Chattanooga 2015 (no clear motive but accounts of 'submitting to Allah' and doing Allah's will)
As you noted, no cleat motive, hence why it wasn't in the list. The choice of target, military, indicates that it was probably in response to military actions in the Middle East, but that has never been confirmed.

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Curtis Culwell Center 2015 (to 'defend' the prophet against cartoons of his likeness, a clearly religious motive)
This seems to be the second most used reason, with 3 attacks in Europe over perceived attacks on the Prophet as well. It is a variation of Westerners attacking Islam so should be attacked back to stop them doing it.

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Zale Thompson 2014 (mostly political but also a strong racist, anti-Western motive)
Again the motive is unclear, but he had a manifesto on his personal computer expressing his wish to attack government figures "here" if he couldn't fight them "there." This indicates it was about military action against Musliums in the Middle East.

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And that's not to go back very far. Then, of course, there's the misrepresentations of the ones you did present, such as the Orlando nightclub shootings which were very likely to be the shooter's repressed homosexuality. And I don't have time for the rest.
Actually the misrepresentation is more likely to be that the Orlando killings were about homosexuality.

"However, according to federal law enforcement officials, the FBI suspects the witnesses claiming Mateen's homosexuality could be mistaken, and has doubts that Mateen was gay. Law enforcement sources said the FBI found no photographs, text messages, smartphone apps, pornography, or cell tower location data to suggest Mateen lived a gay life, closeted or otherwise."

"In the hours before the shooting, Mateen used several Facebook accounts to write posts vowing vengeance for American airstrikes in Iraq and Syria and to search for content related to terrorism. These posts, since deleted, were recovered and included in an open letter by Senate Homeland Security Chairman Ron Johnson to Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg seeking further information about Mateen's use of the site.

During the shooting, Mateen made a 9-1-1 call claiming, among others, it was an act of retaliation for the killing of ISIL militant Abu Waheeb in an airstrike the previous week."wp

Rather then proving your point, your own selection of incidents continues to back up my point by showing that Western intervention in the Middle East and perceived attacks on Islam are the primary cause of these attacks.


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