Alright I hemmed and hawed for a while over starting this thread because while it's not about it per se it is unavoidably interlinked with one of... those topics.
But I think it's an interesting question and while I know this is futile I'd like to get as much of an interesting discussion in as possible before it degrades into the obvious debate.
For the next section I'm taking all data from the 2012 statistics as compiled by the United Nations on Drugs and Crime. I'm rounding all the numbers off just to make them more manageable.
The United States of America has roughly 14,800 murders in 2012 for a murder rate of 4.7 murders per 100,000 citizens. This number is far above the murder rate and the raw number of murders for otherwise comparable modern Westernized secular democracies. The UK had 650 murders for a rate of just a hair over 1 murder per 100,000 citizens, Canada clocked in at 450 for a rate of 1.6, Germany 660 for a rate of .8, France also had roughly 660 with a rate of 1.0, Japan 440 with a rate of .3 and so forth.
So unavoidably the US has a statistically very high murder rate. And this often tied to the United State's gun culture.
But here's my issue. Take all the murders committed by guns in the US and... we're still way, way up on the bell curve.
In 2012 of the 14,800 murders committed in the US, only 8,550 were committed with a firearm. We have more people murdered by knives, blunt objects, arson, poison and "miscellaneous" separately than a lot of comparable countries have murders period.
So there's an X factor in here somewhere that's not guns.
Any ideas?
But I think it's an interesting question and while I know this is futile I'd like to get as much of an interesting discussion in as possible before it degrades into the obvious debate.
For the next section I'm taking all data from the 2012 statistics as compiled by the United Nations on Drugs and Crime. I'm rounding all the numbers off just to make them more manageable.
The United States of America has roughly 14,800 murders in 2012 for a murder rate of 4.7 murders per 100,000 citizens. This number is far above the murder rate and the raw number of murders for otherwise comparable modern Westernized secular democracies. The UK had 650 murders for a rate of just a hair over 1 murder per 100,000 citizens, Canada clocked in at 450 for a rate of 1.6, Germany 660 for a rate of .8, France also had roughly 660 with a rate of 1.0, Japan 440 with a rate of .3 and so forth.
So unavoidably the US has a statistically very high murder rate. And this often tied to the United State's gun culture.
But here's my issue. Take all the murders committed by guns in the US and... we're still way, way up on the bell curve.
In 2012 of the 14,800 murders committed in the US, only 8,550 were committed with a firearm. We have more people murdered by knives, blunt objects, arson, poison and "miscellaneous" separately than a lot of comparable countries have murders period.
So there's an X factor in here somewhere that's not guns.
Any ideas?
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