"...have there ever been proven conspiracies?..."

From another thread:

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Originally Posted by Azrael 5 (Post 10664664) A little off subject but not topic, have there ever been proven conspiracies? Not on scale of 9/11 etc obviously, but false flags etc? Let's say in peacetime?

( That is from: "Boston Marathon bombing deniers -have they ever been able to prove their theories?" ...http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=292864 )


To the above question:

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"...Disguised as Arabs, the Irgun planted a bomb..." (That is from wikipedia's "King David Hotel bombing"....it is on wikipedia at the moment, anyway...Maybe it will change after this is posted, ya never know re wikipedia.)

Search results for King David Hotel bombing :

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Any 'agent provocateur' operation involving two or more people would IMO effectively constitute a False Flag Attack (FFA) type of conspiracy, especially if they are dressed to deceive. Same goes for the Operation Northwoods proposals (including FFAs) allegedly approved by Joint Chiefs in 1962.

I dont know whether or not the King David Hotel bombing actually was a false flag attack orchestrated by Irgun/Menachim Begin. If it was, some may claim it supports other claims of mossad FFA tactics, and that it would support claims of jews/zionists attacking others, including jews, in FFA mode.

This is about conspiracy/FFA, not about jews/zionists/mossad. The King David Hotel bombing merely provides an example of the type raised by the question quoted above. Any nation or group could employ FFA tactics. ...and why wouldn't certain determined ones among them do so with or without official approval, if they think it will succeed, ie go undetected, and further their agenda?

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I recall a state official (who obviously would know better) was somehow recorded on audio suggesting "sending in some troublemakers" (agents provocateur) to disrupt and discredit a peaceful demonstration. IIRC, that was during the fight over 'right to work' legislation in either Wisconsin or Minnesota. If true, that represents a proposal to conspire and commit a FFA type deception.

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"Operation Northwoods" (in case someone hasn't heard)

In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.

The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.

America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."

Details of the plans are described in Body of Secrets (Doubleday), a new book by investigative reporter James Bamford about the history of America's largest spy agency, the National Security Agency. However, the plans were not connected to the agency, he notes.

The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years.

"These were Joint Chiefs of Staff documents. The reason these were held secret for so long is the Joint Chiefs never wanted to give these up because they were so embarrassing," Bamford told ABCNEWS.com.

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From Operation Northwoods spoiler above: "America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba,"

That reminds of FFA claims regarding the USS Maine exploding and sinking in Havana harbor in 1898.

To the OP question...nothing proven AFAIK, but these are a few items to consider regarding some FFA/conspiracy theories, and maybe provide food for thought re the opening question: "...have there ever been proven conspiracies?"..

False flag type operations are in theory effective and relatively easy and inexpensive. Therefore it would not be a big surprise if some have been implemented successfully. If so, we have been bamboozled. and we cannot know how many times we have been bamboozled by conspiracies/False Flag Attacks.
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