In order to answer some other questions about the evacuation of WTC 7, and the different times and other details from the angle of publishers and the future of the discussions I thought I would just start over. The 43 statements from First Responders(from the Archives/from Swan and Summers) are difficult to put in any timeline. However, using Mackey's research along with my own, I will do my best.
This is complicated and difficult to understand however:
Dr. Griffin is faced with a difficult problem. He is attempting to equate prediction of the
collapses with conspiracy to demolish WTC 7, or at the very least cognizance thereof.
As numerous accounts indicate, both in official interviews and ordinary reporting, the
FDNY collectively knew that WTC 7 was in danger of collapse hours before it finally
fell. If Dr. Griffin wishes to maintain his theory, then he must make a painful choice:
1. Accept that the FDNY was part of the plot to destroy WTC 7.
2. Accept that the FDNY knew of the plot, but did nothing to stop it, and to this day
refuses to talk about it.
3. Propose that someone “in the know” tricked a high-ranking member of the FDNY
into thinking that it would collapse, and:
a. This duped individual convinced many more firefighters that it would
collapse;
b. Those so informed believed it would collapse;
c. Not a single FDNY member expressed doubts about what they were told,
based on their own experience and the actual condition of WTC 7; and
d. The structure burned and showed unmistakable signs of weakening
anyway.
What this really means is that there will be no more books published by Griffin, Jones, ect without the main thesis being--Who-What- When- Where-How and why. Publishers have given them a 12 year grace period under the guise of "we are just asking questions/want a new investigation"
Now it's put up or shut up.
Both Dr Jones and Professor Griffin have been forced to accept that the entire high command of the FDNY/Port Authority/OEM was in on the plot to blow up WTC 7.
By their own admission-this must be true-or they have no argument.
Griffin states:
"This unique expectation is explainable, and arguably only explainable, on the supposition that
someone in the Office of Emergency Management knew that there were explosives in WTC 7 that
were going to be set off"
It's one thing to talk about dust, fires, The Bureau, The Agency, President Bush-but a totally different thing calling Firemen murders. Matters little if it's in a Pub up in Yonkers or down in Battery Park this thing is simply too encompassing for any publisher to stick his/her neck out for this silliness-it would be their last not so great act in a dying business.
This ends the discussion of WTC 7
Finally, the question of evacuation of WTC 7 is mired in overlapping statements:
"Firefighter Eugene Kelty, Jr.: And 7 World Trade was burning up at the time. We could see it. There
was concern. I had gone up to take a look at it, because I knew that the telephone company building,
which is 140 West Street, was next to 7 World Trade Center, and there was a concern that if 7 World
Trade came down, what would happen to this building? We went in there, we checked it out. There
were some people in there. We made them evacuate and I went back to see what was happening"
This statement was from 10:55 am.
This is complicated and difficult to understand however:
Dr. Griffin is faced with a difficult problem. He is attempting to equate prediction of the
collapses with conspiracy to demolish WTC 7, or at the very least cognizance thereof.
As numerous accounts indicate, both in official interviews and ordinary reporting, the
FDNY collectively knew that WTC 7 was in danger of collapse hours before it finally
fell. If Dr. Griffin wishes to maintain his theory, then he must make a painful choice:
1. Accept that the FDNY was part of the plot to destroy WTC 7.
2. Accept that the FDNY knew of the plot, but did nothing to stop it, and to this day
refuses to talk about it.
3. Propose that someone “in the know” tricked a high-ranking member of the FDNY
into thinking that it would collapse, and:
a. This duped individual convinced many more firefighters that it would
collapse;
b. Those so informed believed it would collapse;
c. Not a single FDNY member expressed doubts about what they were told,
based on their own experience and the actual condition of WTC 7; and
d. The structure burned and showed unmistakable signs of weakening
anyway.
What this really means is that there will be no more books published by Griffin, Jones, ect without the main thesis being--Who-What- When- Where-How and why. Publishers have given them a 12 year grace period under the guise of "we are just asking questions/want a new investigation"
Now it's put up or shut up.
Both Dr Jones and Professor Griffin have been forced to accept that the entire high command of the FDNY/Port Authority/OEM was in on the plot to blow up WTC 7.
By their own admission-this must be true-or they have no argument.
Griffin states:
"This unique expectation is explainable, and arguably only explainable, on the supposition that
someone in the Office of Emergency Management knew that there were explosives in WTC 7 that
were going to be set off"
It's one thing to talk about dust, fires, The Bureau, The Agency, President Bush-but a totally different thing calling Firemen murders. Matters little if it's in a Pub up in Yonkers or down in Battery Park this thing is simply too encompassing for any publisher to stick his/her neck out for this silliness-it would be their last not so great act in a dying business.
This ends the discussion of WTC 7
Finally, the question of evacuation of WTC 7 is mired in overlapping statements:
"Firefighter Eugene Kelty, Jr.: And 7 World Trade was burning up at the time. We could see it. There
was concern. I had gone up to take a look at it, because I knew that the telephone company building,
which is 140 West Street, was next to 7 World Trade Center, and there was a concern that if 7 World
Trade came down, what would happen to this building? We went in there, we checked it out. There
were some people in there. We made them evacuate and I went back to see what was happening"
This statement was from 10:55 am.
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