I've argued a bunch on patriarchy and related topics quite a bit over the years and I am wondering what this forum considers to be "the patriarchy" if you believe we live in one, what good or bad or neutral results come from this, and if it is possible to change this to some better alternative.
I ask in part because every time I talk to feminists regarding patriarchy I can't help but feel that it is a motte-and-bailey switch, where the easily defended position is "men make up a disproportionate amount of positions of power" ie government, CEOs, etc.
The often-withheld (but also quite often openly admitted) position is that patriarchy not only is this, but it is the general valuing of men and/or empowerment of men at the oppression and/or expense of women.
I think there could plausibly be an element of truth to this, though I personally see many problems with this idea and don't this it accurately reflects reality. I can go into more detail later.
There is another point I'd like to make, though, and that the patriarchy theory comes off identical to what I'm going to call the Jewiarchy, for convenience. Jews make up a disproportionate fraction of positions of power, and the alt-right (and older groups) see this as a kind of conspiracy theory where Jews have specific politics that oppress/neglect non-Jews in order to favor Jews (or globalism or something else, it depends on the group I guess).
Is there a reasonable difference between these theories? Do they have predictive power? What are the predictions that can be made to test these theories?
I ask in part because every time I talk to feminists regarding patriarchy I can't help but feel that it is a motte-and-bailey switch, where the easily defended position is "men make up a disproportionate amount of positions of power" ie government, CEOs, etc.
The often-withheld (but also quite often openly admitted) position is that patriarchy not only is this, but it is the general valuing of men and/or empowerment of men at the oppression and/or expense of women.
I think there could plausibly be an element of truth to this, though I personally see many problems with this idea and don't this it accurately reflects reality. I can go into more detail later.
There is another point I'd like to make, though, and that the patriarchy theory comes off identical to what I'm going to call the Jewiarchy, for convenience. Jews make up a disproportionate fraction of positions of power, and the alt-right (and older groups) see this as a kind of conspiracy theory where Jews have specific politics that oppress/neglect non-Jews in order to favor Jews (or globalism or something else, it depends on the group I guess).
Is there a reasonable difference between these theories? Do they have predictive power? What are the predictions that can be made to test these theories?
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