In his 1966 book Intelligent Life in the Universe, Carl Sagan described his testifying in a trial involving a certain Helmut Winckler, someone who claimed that he was visited by some Saturnians. They showed him various things, like the location of a deposit of quartz that cured cancer. He proposed to start a mining company to mine that quartz, accepting some money for doing so. That led to him being tried for fraud.
The prosecution invited CS as an expert witness to testify about whether Saturn could have humanlike inhabitants. He explained how one finds out about conditions on other planets, and he explained that Saturn is unlikely to have such inhabitants.
Helmut Winckler seems to have been Reinhold O. SchmidtWP , an identification also supported by
1957.1105 Reinhold Schmidt encounter - www.isaackoi.com.
I've also found
the claimed ufocontacts of Reinhold Schmidt
The Curious Case of Reinhold Schmidt Leads to Psychiatric Hospital, Criminal Conviction | UFOGrid
Schmidt,Reinhold,Contactee,1957,J.Clark.pdf -- also mentioning Carl Sagan and that trial
Here's a bit of Carl Sagan's account:
from Shooting Yourself in the Foot: Sagan, Asimov, and Michio Kaku
We don't hear much of this genre of UFO contact any more. It's been mostly UFO abductions with lots of poking and probing by not-very-friendly UFOnauts.
But UFOnauts as friendly Space Brothers and Space Sisters used to be common. They looked human and very nice-looking human at that, and they were very concerned about what destructive things that we were doing. But they were unwilling to intervene in force, and they chose to reveal themselves to only a few people.
Seems like as sort of religion with the Space Siblings as the deities.
Much more plausible IMO is the scenario in the movie The Day the Earth Stood Still. The visitors make themselves very plainly apparent to everybody, and they knock out electricity grids to demonstrate their capabilities.
But we have Truman Bethurum meeting Space Sister Aura Rhanes of planet Clarion, which was supposedly behind the Moon, then behind the Sun, then orbiting some other star.
And George Adamski meeting Space Brother Orthon of Venus. Later some more people from there, and also from Mars and Saturn.
Any more fun ones?
The prosecution invited CS as an expert witness to testify about whether Saturn could have humanlike inhabitants. He explained how one finds out about conditions on other planets, and he explained that Saturn is unlikely to have such inhabitants.
Helmut Winckler seems to have been Reinhold O. SchmidtWP , an identification also supported by
1957.1105 Reinhold Schmidt encounter - www.isaackoi.com.
I've also found
the claimed ufocontacts of Reinhold Schmidt
The Curious Case of Reinhold Schmidt Leads to Psychiatric Hospital, Criminal Conviction | UFOGrid
Schmidt,Reinhold,Contactee,1957,J.Clark.pdf -- also mentioning Carl Sagan and that trial
Here's a bit of Carl Sagan's account:
Quote:
On another expedition, the Saturnians took Winckler to that Mecca of the occult, the Great Pyramid of Gizeh in Egypt. They mingled with a group of tourists being guided through the interior of the pyramid. (I have a vivid mental image of this procession: Egyptian guide, two middle-aged ladies from Dubuque, some assorted French and German tourists, six Saturnians in flowing robes, and, brining up the rear, Helmut Winckler in levis.) At a certain intersection of pathways, the tourists went in one direction, and Winckler and the Saturnians in the other. They were confronted with a blank wall. Appropriate pressures were applied to appropriate bricks, and the wall slid open, revealing a chamber within. The party entered, and the stone door slid silently shut behind them. In the room were (1) a small, one-man flying saucer, quite dusty with age; (2) a large and equally ancient wooden cross perhaps ten feet high; and (3) a toroid of thorns about eight inches in diameter. The Saturnians offhandedly explained that one of their number had attempted a mission to Earth some two thousand years ago. He had met with somewhat qualified success. |
from Shooting Yourself in the Foot: Sagan, Asimov, and Michio Kaku
We don't hear much of this genre of UFO contact any more. It's been mostly UFO abductions with lots of poking and probing by not-very-friendly UFOnauts.
But UFOnauts as friendly Space Brothers and Space Sisters used to be common. They looked human and very nice-looking human at that, and they were very concerned about what destructive things that we were doing. But they were unwilling to intervene in force, and they chose to reveal themselves to only a few people.
Seems like as sort of religion with the Space Siblings as the deities.
Much more plausible IMO is the scenario in the movie The Day the Earth Stood Still. The visitors make themselves very plainly apparent to everybody, and they knock out electricity grids to demonstrate their capabilities.
But we have Truman Bethurum meeting Space Sister Aura Rhanes of planet Clarion, which was supposedly behind the Moon, then behind the Sun, then orbiting some other star.
And George Adamski meeting Space Brother Orthon of Venus. Later some more people from there, and also from Mars and Saturn.
Any more fun ones?
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