Telling folks what Christianity really teaches is hardly "proselytizing"

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Originally Posted by arayder (Post 13945068) The Gospels are packed full of stories about the Pharisees who were known for their hypocrisy and perjury. The Pharisees are the archetype for the sort of modern day hypocritical Christians who are so often lambasted here. It's worth noting that the anger that Jesus expressed towards the Pharisees was because they had corrupted the law of God with their rules and hence were leading the people astray. In effect they were idolizing the law instead of worshipping God. My take is that Jesus didn't hate them. He was angry with them for what they were doing. In this way Christianity, practiced as it should be, is not hate, but is the answer to hate. Oh, my! Is this leading us to a concrete thing we can do to counter hate?

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Originally Posted by arayder (Post 13946401) .... Telling folks what Christianity really teaches is hardly "proselytizing". if you had bother to read what I posted and had bothered to read the Gospels you'd know that Jesus forgave the Pharisees, converted a couple and accepted a couple more as his disciples.

Oh where to start oh where....

Other than that the statements are belied thoroughly by what the New Tall tales actually say Jesus said about hating one's own kin an kith to be worthy of the cult leader.... and other than that history definitively rives to smithereens the assertions with christianity's long wide trail and rivers of blood .... not to mention current affairs going on right now too with christianity's injustice and THEOCRATIC FASCISM.... there is of course the glaring No True Scotsman fallacy... or the denial of English language words.

Then there is of course the risible oblivious assertion that excoriating Jews and going around maligning them and promising them with gnashing of teeth and wailing in an ever lasting pit of fire... is justified because they did not accept Jesus' flimflam... and then going on to obliviously state that all this hate and injustice by Jesus... "practiced as it should be, is not hate, but is the answer to hate.... leading us to a concrete thing we can do to counter hate"... :dl:

I wonder how Ananias and Sapphira felt about "Christianity, practiced as it should be"

• Acts 5:1-11 Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, and kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet. But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?... And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.... Then fell she [Sapphira] down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband. And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.

I wonder how these words from Jesus calling for hate and JIHAD will "lead us to a concrete thing we can do to counter hate"???

• Matthew 10:34-39 4 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
• Luke 14:26 If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.
• Luke 19:27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.
• John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. ...
• Matthew 15:24-26 He answered, I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel. The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said. He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.
• Matthew 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
• John 3:18 ...but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
• Matthew 21-24 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! ... Bethsaida! ...Tyre... Capernaum... shalt be brought down to hell.... I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.
• Matthew 27:25 All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”

I guess... Jesus said it best to describe the extent of benightedness in the above statements...

• Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

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