Sailor Suicides on GW Carrier

Sailors say aircraft carrier that had multiple suicides occur among crew was uninhabitable

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/06/polit...ons/index.html

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In the past 12 months, the crew of the USS George Washington has suffered seven deaths, of which at least four are by suicide, the Navy said.

I was only stationed on submarines while on sea duty in the USN. Life in port in the sub force is far superior for unmarried Sailors on submarines than on carriers. The sub Sailors get a barracks room which is normally what the Navy calls substandard as they don't normally spend enough money to keep them in good condition or have enough rooms for to keep their people one or two to a room instead of three or more.

But barracks life is far superior to living on a carrier that is being repaired; for junior Sailors anyway. Services like plumbing and ventilation are degraded or inoperable on parts of the ship. The living and sleeping spaces can be noisy. Call me a delicate flower, but what I've seen on carriers in overhaul would drive me nuts if I actually had to live on the thing instead of going ashore each night I didn't have duty.

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When several members of Congress visited the ship earlier this week, the spaces they visited, which included galleys and berthings, were well maintained, Myers told CNN on Friday.

Well no kidding! Of course the members of Congress were only allowed to see the acceptable parts of the ship. I've prepared for inspections before on subs and present my spaces in the best possible light to those touring.

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Asked if the Navy was aware that crewmembers were sleeping in their cars instead of on the ship, Myers said every sailor is "provided the means to accommodations," and the Navy will look at whether housing was a factor in the suicides.

Maybe Commander Myers was misquoted, but CNN is making him look like a coward for failing to give a yes or no answer.

This is why probably the question was directed at someone who was not responsible for conditions on the ship. Had they asked an actual senior officer on the ship, they would have probably got a "no comment" to keep from saying "no, we don't have decent living spaces" or to keep from lying.

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But when he told the sailors they should have "reasonable expectations" and that they're not "sleeping in a foxhole like a Marine might be doing," some crewmembers were stunned. The fourth sailor from the ship called it a "laughable, offensive speech."

This is how Navy leadership tells the junior Sailors to go **** themselves. Even Marines get reasonable quarters when not training in the field.

MCPON Smith most likely knows exactly what the Sailors are going through. He is probably disappointed that anyone found out his men are killing themselves.

Two years ago when USS Roosevelt Captain Brett Crozier went out of his way to protect his Sailors, the Navy fired him. I don't think these latest incidents are going to convince the Navy that they need to take better care of their carrier crews.

Ranb

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